'To the HOP - Safety Differently' with Andrea Baker

The Safeti Podcast ‘Connecting Health, Safety & Environment’

If you are involved in Health and Safety, Environment or anything in between, make sure to join us for some laid back learning!

In Episode 20 of The Safeti Podcast, we catch up with Andrea Baker, the HOP Mentor!

If you've never heard of the terms Human and Organizational Performance, or HOP, or the New View, or Safety Differently, you've come the right place!

​In short, HOP is an industrial operating philosophy that recognizes safety (and quality) as an emergent property of the larger system.  Good performance is not the absence of errors (human error is inevitable), it's the presence of defenses (Conklin).

To embrace this philosophy, Andrea believes the profession needs a paradigm shift in thought. To be more precise, we need to move away from looking for fault in our people, and towards looking for weaknesses in our system; to "become less surprised by error, and more interested in learning"- Edwards.

As there is plenty to absorb during this session, we've split into two so that you can listen, digest and apply some of the thoughts to your own context before we go on to the second session.

To the HOP - Safety Differently - Podcast Resources

Andrea Baker - connect with the HOP Mentor on Linkedin

Safety Differently - useful resource from Sidney Dekker and his collaborators

The Hop Mentor - find out more about Andrea at her own website

HOP Hub - consortium of leaders in the human and org. performance specialism

Safeti Blog Post - a little more about Andrea's personal mission in our guest bio